What if knowing isn’t something you think—but something you recognize?
And what if the deepest truths arrive not through study, but through play, trust, and the quiet intelligence of lived experience?

In this revelatory episode of ILA Radio, host Laura Alyn sits down with Wanako Oberhuber—educator, researcher, and integrative thinker—to explore the three major pathways of human understanding: academic knowing, playful knowing, and intuitive knowing.

Together, they unravel the difference between information and truth, why science can only ever offer provisional certainty, and how intuition emerges as a state of being rather than a method of thought. Wanako shares her lifelong fascination with learning systems, her experience as an energy worker and academic, and the moments when deep knowing broke through and reshaped her life.

If you’ve ever wondered whether to follow rules, your plans, or your gut, this episode will feel like a guide home. Tune in and discover how your own curiosity, playfulness, and inner knowing are quietly leading the way.

For more on Wanako:

https://t.me/TheHolySpiritCurriculumOfJoy

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NOTES FROM THE EPISODE
RE: CONNECTION TO THE
ORNELIAN FRAMEWORK

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